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PEMF Therapy: What the Maker Told Mike, and How He Uses It

PEMF therapy explained by the CEO who builds Mike Torchia's system: what the pulses do, the settings Mike uses after training, who should skip it, and the cost.

Mike Torchia and Scott Baider on the Live Well and Thrive set
Ep. 122 - Future Of Health - Recovery & Performance - Scott Baider · March 30, 2026 · Watch on YouTube

You finish a hard leg day and the lower back tightens on the drive home. A shoulder you pressed too heavy on Tuesday is still talking on Friday. Recovery used to take a night. Now it takes most of the week, and somebody at the gym has told you about a table that pulses.

That table is usually a PEMF therapy system, and the claims around it run from sore muscles to almost anything. On episode 122 of Live Well and Thrive, Mike Torchia asked the man who builds one to explain it. Scott Baider is the CEO of Pulse PEMF, the company that makes the system Mike has used for years, so read his answers as a maker’s view. This post takes what he said about how the field works and how the settings change, and sets Mike’s own routine beside it.

What PEMF therapy is, in the maker’s words

PEMF stands for pulsed electromagnetic field. The equipment is a generator, a control box with dials, connected to a table, a full-body pad, a smaller pad, or a ring you can put around a hand. When it runs, a magnet switches on and off many times a second.

PEMF pushes a magnetic field through your body.

Baider’s explanation starts with the planet. The Earth puts out a magnetic field, he says, and a lightning strike creates a strong one; magnetic energy is one of the most natural things a body meets. As the field passes through you, some of that energy interfaces with the electrical charge of your cells, and in his account that helps the cell respirate, build mitochondrial density, and produce ATP, the fuel a cell runs on. He told Mike the body is about 30 trillion cells and compared each one to a factory: without energy, the factory is closed.

That is how the man who builds the machine understands it. It explains why he thinks one device can matter to many tissues. It is not a clinical result this post can vouch for.

How Mike uses PEMF therapy for recovery after training

Mike’s routine is specific. He trains hard, then eats a high-protein meal with a carbohydrate that is not high glycemic, usually green vegetables. About an hour and a half to two hours later he lies on the table. Done in that order, he says, he did not feel the usual tightness after a workout. He felt the blood moving instead.

He describes the session finding the place he had pushed. After squats it went to the lower back, where the erector muscles had tightened. After a heavy day of dumbbell presses it went to the triceps. Baider’s explanation is that the field reaches both shoulders equally, but tissue that is damaged or short on oxygen and nutrients holds less water, so it responds differently, and you feel the difference.

Mike, by his own count 69 at the time of recording, says the results came with frequency: deeper REM sleep, less joint pain, and faster recovery between sessions. He says he now trains heavier than he did before he started. For his spine, injured in a 2003 motorcycle accident, PEMF is one step in a longer sequence: twenty minutes in a red light therapy bed, then the PEMF table, then deep tissue work. That story, and what a spine surgeon made of it, is in the post on lumbar fusion recovery.

The settings matter: pulse rate and intensity

The part of the conversation most people will not hear anywhere else is about the dials. Mike admitted that once the therapist leaves the room, he slows the pulse down and turns the intensity all the way up. A fast, light pulse felt like someone tapping him on the shoulder. A slow, heavy one felt like a deep tissue elbow. He asked Baider whether slower really goes deeper.

Baider said yes, and gave numbers. His systems switch the magnet on and off one to ten times a second. One to three and a half pulses a second is his setting for recovery. Four to seven is for performance, when you simply want the energy in. Above 7.8, which he calls the Earth’s magnetic resonance, up to ten, is meant to calm the body.

We don’t want to stimulate that tissue more than it needs to be, because it’s already overstimulated.

His reasoning is that a muscle you have just trained hard is already overstimulated. The slow pulse still delivers the magnetic energy without adding more stimulation than the tissue needs. He also recommends spending about two thirds of a session on the whole body and one third on the trouble area.

Does PEMF therapy work? Only if you keep doing it

Baider is candid about the wellness market. Everything claims to take away pain, he says, and most of it sounds the same. His test is whether people feel it, because people quit what they cannot feel.

If they don’t feel it, then they don’t continue doing it.

Strength is the other variable. He separates low-energy systems you will not notice from systems strong enough to make a muscle twitch on its own. He also says the benefit is cumulative: with sufficient minerals in the body, he claims, cells stay charged for up to two weeks after a session, and a few sessions a week build on each other.

Mike’s version is the one he gives every client about every tool. Treat it like training, on a schedule, or do not bother. In his words: “Think of it as another workout that you do for the body, because that’s when you see the results.”

Three sessions in one week and then nothing, he says, and you revert. Twice a week is his floor and three is when he says he sees the most. His closing line on the episode was that this is not a quick fix; as you age you atrophy, and frequency is how you compete with that.

Who should skip PEMF, and what it costs

Baider says PEMF has very few contraindications. The two he names: an implanted device that runs on a battery, because the field can drain it, and pregnancy, where he says people are simply cautious because it has not been tested. Metal is not one of them in his view. Mike trains with a steel rod in his hip and reports no issues. Your own physician should make that call for you, especially with a device in your chest.

On regulation, Baider says his system is sold as a wellness product. He says the FDA has cleared other companies’ PEMF devices for specific uses, including bone healing, and he points listeners to the research published on PubMed rather than making claims for his own.

The price is the real barrier. Mike asked what the full professional setup costs: table, pads, rings, and the control box. Baider put it at about $35,000, and said there are no insurance reimbursement codes, so it is cash pay. His suggestion for most people is a practitioner locator on his company’s website, listing a few thousand clinics that offer sessions. He says about a third of what the company sells now goes into homes, mostly to people managing chronic pain.

How this fits the way Operation Fitness works

Operation Fitness draws a line between a shortcut and a hack. A shortcut is what you do instead of the work. A hack is what you do around it. Baider put PEMF on the hack side without being asked: working out matters, he said, but recovery is how the body sets the gains in place.

Recovering is where you see those benefits.

Mike’s routine follows the same order. The workout comes first, then the meal, then the table, then the soft tissue work, and the tool earns its place only by letting him train again sooner. Every Operation Fitness program is designed by Mike and delivered by his team, it starts with testing, and a recovery tool such as PEMF is added only where it serves the plan. The biohacks page shows where PEMF sits next to red light and hyperbaric oxygen.

Where to go from here

Watch the full episode with Scott Baider on YouTube. See what each recovery tool does and how it is delivered on the biohacks page. If slow recovery or a joint that will not settle is what brought you here, book a consultation and start with where your body is now.

QUESTIONS PEOPLE ASK

What are the side effects of PEMF therapy, and who should avoid it?

Scott Baider says PEMF has very few contraindications. The two he names are an implanted device that runs on a battery, because the magnetic field can drain it, and pregnancy, where he says people are simply cautious because it has not been tested. Metal hardware such as a joint replacement is not a problem in his view; Mike trains with a steel rod in his hip. Ask your physician first.

How often should you use PEMF therapy?

Mike's answer on the episode is at least twice a week and three times when he can, which is when he says the results are strongest. Baider describes the effect as cumulative, so a few sessions a week add up where a single session fades. Both men compare it to training: done occasionally it does little, done on a schedule it shows.

Is PEMF better than red light therapy?

Mike does not choose between them. His sequence on the episode is a red light bed for 20 minutes, then the PEMF table, then deep tissue work. Baider says PEMF stacks with red light, saunas, cold plunges, cryotherapy, and hyperbaric oxygen, and that its field passes all the way through the body. The red light side of the routine is covered in its own post on this blog.

Where can you try PEMF therapy near you?

Baider says his company keeps a practitioner locator on its website, with a few thousand clinics around the country that offer sessions as a service. He presents that as the reasonable route for anyone not ready to buy a professional system. Chiropractors, physical therapists, and recovery centers are where he says the equipment usually sits. Insurance does not cover it today, by his account.

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